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LiveBlog: The Grand Ol' Opry-sidential Debate

POSTED BY: Dennis DiClaudio

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11:14 - Okay, Rachel Maddow's on the television. I have to go now. Once she's talked, the coyote and I have to open up a second bottle of absinthe and head off on our vision quest.

Oh, and I need to buy cigarettes.

But, please, keep up the conversation.

11:08 – CNN's instapoll has Obama winning this debate 54 to 30.

54 to 30!

Jesus!

14 24 points! WTF? Update: I'm even worse at math then I am at spelling. Jesus, what am I good at?

11:05 – From the comments: "Teddy Roosevelt was my hero. Teddy Roosevelt was my friend. You sir are no Teddy Roosevelt." – Ian C

11:00 – georgia10

"This "town hall" (and I put "town hall" in quotation marks because this was really like a glorified press conference) was boring, lusterless, and lacked any headline-grabbing moments. There was no winking here and no snappy comebacks. There was no real "smackdown" moment, no instance where any candidate scored anything more than small points in small fashion.

And that mundaneness, that ordinariness of this forum, is dangerous for McCain.

It's dangerous in that McCain needed to shine tonight. He is down by double digits in key battleground states, and poll after poll is suggesting that we may see a landslide in November."

10:59 – "John McCain, when he smiles, has an almost menacing quality." – Chris Matthews.

10:57 – Andrew Sullivan

"This was, I think, a mauling: a devastating and possibly electorally fatal debate for McCain. Even on Russia, he sounded a little out of it. I've watched a lot of debates and participated in many. I love debate and was trained as a boy in the British system to be a debater. I debated dozens of times at Oxofrd. All I can say is that, simply on terms of substance, clarity, empathy, style and authority, this has not just been an Obama victory. It has been a wipe-out.It has been about as big a wipe-out as I can remember in a presidential debate. It reminds me of the 1992 Clinton-Perot-Bush debate. I don't really see how the McCain campaign survives this."

10:52 – From the comments: "Heather means rule through intimidation, contempt, and sex appeal." – LoLa Lamar

Oh, well, then clearly, John McCain was the Heather.

10:51 – The focus group on MSNBC is down in Philadelphia.

The coyote says, "Go, Phillies!"

To be fair: I say, "Go, Mets!" Oh, wait. Sorry, Mets fans.

10:50 – Man, that cigarette felt good.

Oh, by the way, Cube finally gets a comment up for the night:

"This debate was lame. No clear winner. No bump either way. If anything, it just shows how soft McCain is for not mentioning Ayers. He has to send out Palin to do his dirty work. To me, that shows a complete lack of testicular fortitude."

10:36 – The coyote says that Cindy McCain is a Heather.

Again, anyone know what that means.

Man, it sucks to be on a spiritual journey like this.

10:35 – Brokaw's using a teleprompter?!

There is no god.

10:32 – So, what John McCain doesn't know is what's gonna happen here and there, up and down, now and then.

Wow, that's deep.

I thought his answer would be how to program a digital alarm clock.

10:31 – The coyote, by the way, says hello to Upma and Clay.

10:28 – "What don't you know, and how will you learn it?"

Yikes.

10:26 – Don't touch touch the crowd, McCain. It frightens people.

10:25 – Cheri Oteri looks bad!

10:24 – Come on! Yes or No!

I want my answers nonsensical and overly simplistic.

10:23 – Yes or No!

10:21 – The coyote asks: "What are they doing to make those people in the background not react in any human way?"

My guess is talk about policy.

Has anyone mention Bill Ayers yet? C'mon! I have no brain, bit I'd also like to engage in this debate.

10:20 – Jesus! How many time time is McCain gonna use that seeing "KGB" in Putin's eyes line?

It wasn't convincing the first time he said it.

10:19 – See that? Obama won't admit that he was wrong about the Iraq war being an amazing success?

Shame on you, Hussein!

10:16 – Again. McCain knows how to get bin Laden, but won't tell us unless we elect him.

10:14 – Holy shit! Look at McCain's temper rising up through his collar.

10:12 – "If we're gonna have follow-ups, then I'm gonna want follow-ups." Obama doesn't respect the rules of this debate.

How can we expect him to respect the rules of not selling America to Russia?

10:11 – "Yeeaaa, oh wise coyote, who's answer seem strangely like an Eight Ball." – Dave W

Ask again later.

10:10 – "There haven't been this many "friends" on tv since NBC Must See TV." – Juan Valdez

10:07 – Anyone know how many "my friends" we heard so far tonight?

10:06 – The coyote, my friends, is sad about Darfur.

10:05 – From the comments: "Does the coyote think I'm getting a hummer tonight?" – Dave W

The coyote is confident.

10:01 – "We don't have time for on the job training, my friend?"

I wonder if Sarah Palin agrees.

10:00 – "Why is it more patriotic to say 'Amuhrica'?" – The Coyote

9:59 – "Did we hear the size of the fine?"

Good one, Senator Uncle.

9:56 – You see that woman in the blue dress in the background? You see that smile on her face when Obama talks?

Dude, Barack's getting a hummer after the show tonight.

Or, at least, that's what the coyote thinks.

9:55 – From the comments: "Did McCain just call Obama "that one" like my grandmother when I flooded her kitchen?" – pixie1212

9:53 – Obama will find me?!

Shit! I better hide real good like.

9:52 – From the comments: "McCain is funnier than you people." – Fresh Baked

Well, he's funnier than me. But not nearly as funny as Tom Brokaw.

9:45 – Oh, I like Lindsay Trella. In a Stiffler's mom kind of way.

9:44 – Never forget!

9:43 – "I love that McCain's main talking point is that no one likes him." – MK

I'm sure the GOP does, too.

9:40 – The coyote just informed me that Sarah Palin is Wormtongue and John McCain is Denethor.

Does anybody know what that means?

9:39 – Is somebody snoring in there?

9:37 - "Living high on the hog?" Was that a sexist comment about Sarah Palin?

9:36 – "Nailing Jell-O to the wall." That's fantastic! How'd he come up with that brilliant rejoinder?
9:34 – Hey, let's not start badmouthing people who "got drunk."

9:32 – "The first question from the internet is from a 78 year old who lived through the depression?!?" – MK

I don't believe that.

No way that person knows how to use the internet.

Follow-up joke: No fair! John McCain shouldn't be allowed to ask questions!

9:31 – How, with a straight face, can John McCain keep denigrating the bill that he just fucking signed with his own fucking pen?

9:30 – A spending freeze? How exactly would that work?

9:28 – Obama just compared oil independence to landing on the moon.

Do you have any idea how hard it would be to land on the moon today?

9:25 – The nodding woman in the audience is also smiling. That's a good sign.

However, the eye-rolling woman is frowning. That's a bad sign.

By the way, you catch that casual dropping of JFK?

9:23 – From the comments: "Dennis… I officially request a picture of you and the coyote enjoying the debate." – Copax

Sorry, Copax. The coyote dissipates when faced with photo ions.

9:20 – McCain is getting really close to these audience members. Is this the Jerry Springer show?

9:19 – "We're the best importers." I don't know. That's just funny. – Michael Kraskin

9:17 – Barack Obama will be such a handsome president.

The coyote is asking why nobody ever comments that Obama's lips are blue.

He's so wise.

9:15 – McCain's guy was not a Fannie May person! That's bullshit!

It was Freddie mac.

So, um, yeah.

9:13 – "I've got to correct a little of Senator McCain's history… not surprisingly." Jab.

9:12 – Oh, that's right. John McCain suspended his campaign to deal with the economy. But now his campaign doesn't want to talk about it.

9:08 – Brokaw is laying down the the law. He's so adorable.

9:06 – So, um, energy independence is the answer to bailing out retirees. Maybe John McCain knows something the rest of us don't.

9:03 – Good news for you people. I'm already three-quarters way through a bottle of absinthe. So, this should be a really productive liveblogging effort on my part.

However, if you're worried, i have this coyote here beside me to help me on my journey.

——

Tonight, at 9 pm (EST, which, let's get serious, is the only real time (suck it, MST!)), Barack Obama and John McCain will take the stage in Nashville, Tennessee to do as so many others have done before them: to spin yarns about financial woes, lost jobs and 1960s radical domestic terrorists.

With actual policy discussion being so last week, this should prove to be an exhilarating battle to see if Obama can say "Lehman Brothers" and "Charles Keating" more often than McCain can say "William Ayers" and "Jeremiah Wright." Definitely some nonsensical bullshit that should not be missed.

As always, we'll be liveblogging the whole thing right here in this very post. So, keep your eyes peeled, your ears open and your gag reflex well-massaged.

  1. Holy crap… Even Fox News is telling the McCain political spin guru that he's full of it and that his canidate lost the debate. Now I've seen everything!

    (Note– happened approx. 12:32 EST, 9:32 PST)

    by LK October 8th at 1:02AM
  2. Damnit! I lost 10 bucks tonight betting that Mcain was already dead and just being animated by invisible strings and cleverly disguised duct tape. My theory rested on his microphone arm being taped to the under layer of his suit. Then he pointed to Obama and said, "That one" and all bets were off! Back to the drawing board. Maybe he's just a zombie? nah too pro gun.. everyone knows zombies hate guns. Well..he could be ET back from his journey home… I mean have you seen his ET waddle? Unmistakable. I mean ET knew how to use a phone right? Well so does John Mcain! SO what if he can't use a computer! His rebuttal, "JM phone homeeeland security."

    by jazzpants October 8th at 2:09AM
  3. Hr 1 minute 4 into the debate… right after the question involving the the Obama doctrine and the McCain doctrine when no national security issues are at stake. Obama is the first to field the question.

    There is a Jon Stewart look-a-like with a moustache!! IT'S TOTALLY JON STEWART! He snuck into the debates, grew a moustache, and even sitting down he is 5 inches taller! WHERE IS COLBERT?!

    by Jordan Crawford October 8th at 4:03AM
  4. McCain said 'my friends' 19 times.

    My friends, you will have headaches tomorrow.

    by obamagramma October 8th at 5:38AM
  5. It looks as though a new American Idol winner will be crowned soon – Obama. Considering how the people in this country have reached an abysmal level in embracing and celebrating mediocrity, he will be perfect for what has come to be expected.

    by Peggy E. October 8th at 8:21AM
  6. Is John McCain the new Manchurian Candidate? Is Obama the new Denzel Washington? John seems to repeat the same mantra over and over just like the movie character.

    by Rhetor October 8th at 9:15AM
  7. Well, it's like I've been saying all along: as soon as the public sees an articulate, vital Obama next to an angry, aging McCain it will be 1960 all over again. A lot of people, unsure about Jack Kennedy's administration, still voted for him based on his demeanor in the tv debates. The nation will do the same for Obama, and if you extend the comparison you will believe that an Obama administration will have a rocky time of it but will persevere and get us back on track. Except that he won't boink Marilyn Monroe – that we know.

    by DaveW October 8th at 9:46AM
  8. @jazzpants, When McCain referred to Obama as "that one", it reminded me of how some military personnel talk about the enemy, like they are not human but mere objects. I guess it's to divorce themselves from feeling any emotion towards said enemy and better able to kill without remorse. McCain is in combat mode.

    Also, (unrelated) was that you, Dennis D. in the argyle sweater on the Colbert Report during the Stephen's town hall meeting?

    by hilo08 October 8th at 1:15PM
  9. @Rhetor. I've floated this theory before. John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life. He was in a box for five years. They totally took his brain to the dry cleaners. Why don't you pass the time with a game of solitaire?

    by Cube October 8th at 6:06PM
  10. It looks as though a new American Idol winner will be crowned soon – Obama. Considering how the people in this country have reached an abysmal level in embracing and celebrating mediocrity, he will be perfect for what has come to be expected. by piggy

    yeah, bush set the bar too low huh? funny thing is mc cain can't even reach the bar at it's new height.

    by ron October 9th at 3:12PM
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