Glenn Greenwald on the fallout from the War on Terror…
"Given the ongoing American quest for violence from that one-day attack [9/11], just imagine the impact which continuous attacks over the course of a full decade must have on those whom we’ve been invading, droning, cluster-bombing, occupying, detaining without charges, and indiscriminately shooting."
Yeah, but… those other people are foreign. They're foreigners from foreign places. Science hasn't even proven that they have souls.
So, it's really not the same thing.
Tags: 9/11, Afghanistan, Glenn Greenwald, Iraq, Military, Quote Unquote, Terrorism
Yesterday, I mentioned that the left-wing blogoshereopolis is currently engaged in an actual adult-person kind of debate — i.e. one that does not involves neither ad hominem attacks nor crying on TV — over whether Americans should accept the warm, steaming pile of health care bill that Congress is serving us or if we should send it back to the kitchen and re-request the thing we asked for in the first place.
Glenn Greenwald — whom, if my sources are correct, has been known occasionally rock a boat from time to time — has waded into the debate. His post over at Salon is characteristically tall and filled with many words, but it's well worth reading if you're interested in that sort of thing.
Here, though, is the bit that hit me the hardest…
[I]f progressives always announce that they are willing to accept whatever miniscule benefits are tossed at them (on the ground that it's better than nothing) and unfailingly support Democratic initiatives (on the ground that the GOP is worse), then they will (and should) always be ignored when it comes time to negotiate; nobody takes seriously the demands of those who announce they'll go along with whatever the final outcome is.
Seriously, liberals have to grow some balls and start demanding some satisfaction from the legislators. I think we should start a movement, motivate people, wake people from their stupors and send them out into the streets, filled with bilious self-righteous anger, to take what's theirs, make the country start working for them!
That said, I'll go along with whatever everybody else wants to do.
Tags: Democrats, Glenn Greenwald, Health Care, House of Representatives, Liberals, Medicare, Senate
With Joe Lieberman almost certain to receive a sound thrashing today from his fellow Democratic caucusers and lose some piddling little committee chair that he probably didn't want anyway, Salon's Glenn Greenwald argues that maybe it's time we all just didn't get along…
Where is the evidence of the supposed partisan wrangling that we hear so much about? Just examine the question dispassionately. Look at every major Bush initiative, every controversial signature Bush policy over the last eight years, and one finds virtually nothing but massive bipartisan support for them — the Patriot Act (original enactment and its renewal); the invasion of Afghanistan; the attack on, and ongoing occupation of, Iraq; the Military Commissions Act (authorizing enhanced interrogation techniques, abolishing habeas corpus, and immunizing war criminals); expansions of warrantless eavesdropping and telecom immunity; declaring part of Iran's government to be "terrorists"; our one-sided policy toward Israel; the $700 billion bailout; The No Child Left Behind Act, "bankruptcy reform," and on and on.
Most of those were all enacted with virtually unanimous GOP support and substantial, sometimes overwhelming, Democratic support: the very definition of "bipartisanship." That's just a fact…
That's why the outcome of this Joe Lieberman "controversy" is anything but surprising. Having Democrats overlook Lieberman's extremist views and reward him is anything but "change."
Personally, I think the Democrats in Congress are being smart on this one. I don't think they should start doing anything that seems vaguely ballsy until they have a nice firm 112 percent lead over congressional Republicans.
Until then, there's really no point in starting an undue ruckus.
Tags: Glenn Greenwald, Joe Lieberman, Senate